Episode 56

Published on:

17th Feb 2023

Build Systems or Hire? What to do first.

It’s a question as old as business itself…

‘What comes first, the system or the new hire?’

Often business owners get torn between the two. So much so that they can’t make a decision. Which means they carry on with no systems and no new employees.

In the meantime they get more and more busy. And even more stressed.

That’s why in today’s podcast Tony and Phil dive head first into this problem.

But unlike the question as old as time itself “What came first, the chicken or the egg?”...

There is a correct answer to our business problem.

Join them and settle the question once and for all.

 ‘What comes first, the system or the new hire?’

After listening in you can stop getting torn between the two choices. And start making strides forward with your business.

Let’s get into it!


  • Know when you should hire
  • Learn how to get your team to build systems
  • Get more time to work on your business's growth


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How to build a profitable Plumbing, Electrical or similar business that gives you the time, money and freedom to enjoy life.
Are you the owner of a Plumbing, Electrical, or similar service business and looking to increase your profits and regain your freedom?

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Presented by Tony Fraser-Jones and Phil Smith from Profitable Tradie. We dive into what it takes to build a profitable trades business that gives you the time and freedom you deserve.

We touch on topics like...
- How to hire decent tradespeople.
- What to do when clients don't pay their invoice.
- How to get around people beating me down on what I charge.
- Should I buy or lease my next van/truck?
- How to get my team to get off their phones and be motivated for work.
- The second easiest way to increase your profitability.

Along with sharing a ton of free resources so you can get started on what we're discussing right away!

We also talk with some of the world's most successful trades business owners and learn how they took their businesses from mediocre to multimillion.

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